Curse

Kook~NBK~ · Mar 14, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Meanwhile, my Mesmer is stuck in Droknar's forge in that skimpy outfit. Poor thing is probably freezing to death.

Rhuobhe · Mar 14, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

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Originally Posted by Scav

Ain't That sad... About a game that's about skill and not grind..

With only a few exceptions (sup. absorbtiona and vigor come to mind, weapon mods too) you don't need to grind to get max equipment. There are plenty of collectors with ugly-ass max weapons, 15% enchant, stance, and ^50.

When you finally get to droks you should have the 10K or so to max out your character with goodies.

On a side note, HA PvP isn't much about skill either, (I'm sure HoH is) it's about having an emote that will get you into a half-ass group.

CyberNigma · Mar 14, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

With only a few exceptions (sup. absorbtiona and vigor come to mind, weapon mods too) you don't need to grind to get max equipment. There are plenty of collectors with ugly-ass max weapons, 15% enchant, stance, and ^50.

When you finally get to droks you should have the 10K or so to max out your character with goodies.

On a side note, HA PvP isn't much about skill either, (I'm sure HoH is) it's about having an emote that will get you into a half-ass group.

u pinpointed it. that's exactly why some people believe the rollback isn't needed. the economy only gets messed up for the grinders.. everyone else can now afford that sup absorb and just get collectors weapons and armour(like me).

P.S., I don't think as many people are upset by losing a few hours as they are about losing a few hours for no reason at all (assuming those people believe in playing and using skill as opposed to grinding and such). Remember, nobody needs that uber weapon when you can get a collector one.

koneko · Mar 14, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by Vulch`

Ok, I understand the rollback and all. But I REALLY feel you guys over at A-net owe us a better explanation than a "server error" or simply because people bought things. Clarify? Explain? Something, I paid you 50$ and I deserve to know what is happening. I may be a little extra mad seeing as I got two things during this period of time that I wouldn't like to lose.

But c'mon, you encourage us and thank us for us being loyal/honest customers by reporting exactly what happened, so where's your half? Anet owes us a loyal/honest explanation, afterall we are the customers, not too sound greedy.

They gave the explanation to you. Trader reset = rerolling. And they're working on it. You'd prefer that they waste time posting on every fansite about "we're working on it" instead of actually working on it? Oh, not to mention the angry userbase that would scream, "ZOMG Y U NO WORK HARDER I WANNA PLAY WAHHH"

Try managing an active website (or forum) with hundreds of users and posts per day. Try having the database that stores all that information become corrupted to a point where you'd have to restore everything from a prior db dump. Have fun rebuilding the db from the old dumpfile and having to later verify that everything is 100% intact before you even start to think about bringing everything back online. Oh, yes, did I mention that your rabid users are hammering away at your servers trying to get back in while your boss is breathing down your neck and spouting off comments like "get the server back up, this isn't very good for our image, can you please work faster?" All this when it's late at night and all you want to do is go out for a night on the town or collapse out of exhaustion at home.

Multiply that example by a magnitude of 100.

Scav · Mar 14, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

With only a few exceptions (sup. absorbtiona and vigor come to mind, weapon mods too) you don't need to grind to get max equipment. There are plenty of collectors with ugly-ass max weapons, 15% enchant, stance, and ^50.

When you finally get to droks you should have the 10K or so to max out your character with goodies.

On a side note, HA PvP isn't much about skill either, (I'm sure HoH is) it's about having an emote that will get you into a half-ass group.

Emotes are meaningless today.. Anyone now can get a tiger.. Ya don't need skill for it anymore.. But that's another isue.. GVG it's where the last hope for salvation lies.. And yes.. I got Fissure Armor and almost enough money for second set.. 95% of it came from sigils (and the crystaline drop in HOH some months back, hehe)

stickyballs · Mar 14, 2006, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Amazing how crazy people get about a game. You're out of the game for like a day. WoW servers are down like all the time. You paid $50 for a game whereas games that crash a lot have a $50 cost plus a $15 fee a month. If you want to bitch about it, buy one of those games and you have a reason (you're paying a monthy fee). But one day and all of a sudden people are really upset. Go out for once and realize the computer screen is not your life.

And now, a lot of people are threatening not to buy Factions. Amazing, you're one person. Did you ever think that people make mistakes too? One slip and you're so upset. Reading this thread almost makes you not want to play GW after realizing what kind of people you are actually playing with online. The immaturity shown by some posters is mind-boggling. After all, it's just a game.

Ninetail Trickster · Mar 14, 2006, 05:21 AM // 05:21

And I'm sure complaining's going to make it oh-so-much better.
Go play a different game, then. Find an MMORPG that doesn't have these problems. Guild Wars is pretty well-off in terms of this sort of thing. Have they ever rolled their servers back before? Any major downtime in the past?
I apologize. As a programmer that takes this sort of thing from his semi-dev team (only one that knows any sort of scripting. >_< ), I'm a little biased.

BUT...

...neh, my last words on this topic until someone piques my interest- It's a game. A very fun and inexpensive game. Get over it.

XxUberMonkeyxX · Mar 14, 2006, 05:21 AM // 05:21

haha this is like the Great Depression of GW

Rhuobhe · Mar 14, 2006, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by CyberNigma

u pinpointed it. that's exactly why some people believe the rollback isn't needed. the economy only gets messed up for the grinders.. everyone else can now afford that sup absorb and just get collectors weapons and armour(like me).

P.S., I don't think as many people are upset by losing a few hours as they are about losing a few hours for no reason at all (assuming those people believe in playing and using skill as opposed to grinding and such). Remember, nobody needs that uber weapon when you can get a collector one.

Honestly I don't mind people getting sup abs/vigors for cheap, that doesnt bother me at all. But to hand out FoW armor to a bunch of "exploiters" is just wrong.

I only wish there was a weapon mod trader, it's hard finding those perfect mods

CyberNigma · Mar 14, 2006, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by Scav

Emotes are meaningless today.. Anyone now can get a tiger.. Ya don't need skill for it anymore.. But that's another isue.. GVG it's where the last hope for salvation lies.. And yes.. I got Fissure Armor and almost enough money for second set.. 95% of it came from sigils (and the crystaline drop in HOH some months back, hehe)

Nice.. I saved the world from the Lich/Titans and got a nice boatride back to Droknar's Forge.. :-)

VampiricuS · Mar 14, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Well said Koneko. I think the current news update they have made including the comments gaile made in this "fan forum" was suffice.

Anything else is venting.

Cherng Butter · Mar 14, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

estimated time pushed back to 11:00 pm PST

i live on east coast, i guess i should just do homework now haha

craign04 · Mar 14, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by Scav

I'm about to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullscr...e=Pc%20lunatic

On Second thought..... Nahh...

oh dear lord... too bad the germans dont have euthanasia anymore... i think this kid would have been a candidate

ich brauch keine hilfe.... ich brauch keine hilfe.... mwuahahahahahahahha.... SCHEISSE!!!! mein computer scheisst auf mich... this kid is hilarious

Juguard · Mar 14, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by Wotan

well, this is bull. it's now 11pm cst and i can't logon. Nerfnet is continiously nerfing farming spots, "balancing" skills & introducing lots of new bugs while they do so. they do everything they can to piss of ppl who don't have anything to do other then farm (like me, i've beaten the game several times...what else but farming is there to do?). I for one will respond to this with not buying factions and i suggest the same to everybody who has enough with nerfnets actions. gg anet!

Glob of Noobloplasm · Mar 14, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

Amazing how crazy people get about a game. You're out of the game for like a day. WoW servers are down like all the time. You paid $50 for a game whereas games that crash a lot have a $50 cost plus a $15 fee a month. If you want to bitch about it, buy one of those games and you have a reason (you're paying a monthy fee). But one day and all of a sudden people are really upset. Go out for once and realize the computer screen is not your life.

And now, a lot of people are threatening not to buy Factions. Amazing, you're one person. Did you ever think that people make mistakes too? One slip and you're so upset. Reading this thread almost makes you not want to play GW after realizing what kind of people you are actually playing with online. The immaturity shown by some posters is mind-boggling. After all, it's just a game.

I love when people own themselves.

You are one person too, no one cares if you quit.

And holy shit dude, you have a job, and a couple friends, this makes you above everyone who enjoys the game.

Like I said in the above post.

Uninstall

Exit GW

Enjoy your rocketship

stickyballs · Mar 14, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Lol, they did push it back a few hours. I wonder if there were even more problems or they're taking time to instill a major update.

Rhuobhe · Mar 14, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by stickyballs

Amazing how crazy people get about a game. If you want to bitch about it, buy one of those games and you have a reason

They're bitching because in the end they love this game so damned much.

I think that's a good thing

Gaile Gray · Mar 14, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

Explanation? Sure. The server in Europe had a problem. Players were getting disconnects. We made a transfer to move things to a functional server. The file with prices didn't make that move, due to some sort of error the details of which I do not have at present. When that database/file was missing, the prices reset, people bought, economy was in trouble. That's it in a nutshell.

We will be more careful. We will make it so roll-backs don't take this long if we ever have to do one, which we hope will never be necessary.

But we had to make this roll-back, because we saw the math and we could predict the impact on the economy. We're really sorry, but we're also resolute in our goal of protecting the game economy for the greater good and for the benefit of all players. If that takes away "ill gotten gains," well I am sure everyone will live. I do regret that someone's special find or certain accomplishments may also be affected, but in the end, it was and is the right move to make.

castanaveras · Mar 14, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

awwwwwwwww!!
I just try to login GW and it said, "....estimated down time until 11:00pm PST"
Damn it!!!

Hockster · Mar 14, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

If anything else is missing from my accounts they'll all be up for sale. Including the preorders.

Protect the econmy? The economy has been in a shambles for months. Greens screwd it up. Nerfs screwed it up. No one was punished for taking advantage of the last reset. What a load of shit.